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Offline akurtula

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Any recommendations for a beginner?
« on: 05/05/11 @ 04:13 »
Hi Everyone,

Few months a go I saw a three part lecture on philosophy (on itunes) and I was amazed my what I heard.

Then I started reading "The Problems of Philosophy" by Bertrand Russell (I am on chapter 5) - and I really, really love it so far. As you know the book starts by questioning the existence of a table (which I could easily relate to, as a beginner).

also read "Terminator and Philosophy: I'll be Back, Therefore I am" which I found amazing (have not finished yet)

At the moment I am finding it all fascinating, but I fill need to read it again to start gaining the finer details.

Even though I am read these two books, there must be something I should study before picking up such books(?)

So I just wanted to ask whether any of you could recommend me any books which tech the basics of philosophy (knowing that I would not have the lectures help)

Also (and maybe most importantly) is there a book on how a student should approach philosophy? for example if you are not willing to believe that anything is possible then you might be waisting your time reading comic books :)

My career is in Technology, so Im not looking to become a great thinker like you, but I would love to learn as much as I can. I look forward to your replies

Thanks a lot

Offline Gareth Southwell

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Re: Any recommendations for a beginner?
« Reply #1 on: 05/05/11 @ 14:34 »
You seem to be doing fine as you are, to be honest!

The big danger with philosophy is getting too deep too quickly, and being overwhelmed by jargon, ideas and references which are foreign to you. Russell is a good place to begin, because he starts with common sense puzzles - can we trust our senses, what is the world really like, how can we be sure, etc. He also deals with actual philosophers and philosophies, so you get a bit of an intro to the historical side as well. However, other approaches will be different, so don't be dispirited if you get bogged down with this or that book, but merely try to find one that speaks to your interests - whatever they are.

Regarding good intros, I've heard good things about Nigel Warburton's "Philosophy the Basics", and Julian Baggini has produced a number of good books which are aimed at the lay person. If you want something with a slightly more historical slant, then (blows own trumpet!) you could try my "Words of Wisdom", which has one-page explanations of 360 philosophy quotes - which might give you an idea of interesting ideas or philosophers to follow up.

But whatever you choose, my advice is simply to build gradually on your interest, and let it grow. There is no one specific way to "do philosophy properly" because all philosophers will disagree about the job that philosophy is supposed to do! So, just carry on!
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Offline akurtula

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Re: Any recommendations for a beginner?
« Reply #2 on: 05/05/11 @ 15:16 »
Thanks for you reply

I was hoping to hear a similar reply, I'm glad you think that I am on the right path, as most importantly I am really enjoying it, and I'm not totally lost as as you said I am not looking to get too deep to quick

I will have a look at the two books you recommended. From a small comment that I found on goodreades.com, your book "Words of Wisdom" sounds great. This is what one wrote:

"not a book to read overnight...each entry is engaging and thought provoking, short but filling, a danish pastry and coffee type snack. delicious but couldn't eat too many in one sitting!"

The main reason I asked this question was to ask whethere or not there is no one specific way to "do philosophy properly" - Im im glad you clarified that.

Thanks for you help

Offline LostInAShaftOfSunlight

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Re: Any recommendations for a beginner?
« Reply #3 on: 06/05/11 @ 14:23 »
Depending on what your interests are youtube can be an amazing source of debates, discussions, lectures and shorter clips.  I've been hooked on theism/atheism debates as youtube is LOADED with them.

The good thing about the vids is that they occur in a spoken rather than a written register and spoken language is usually much kinder to the beginner as it is full of hesitations, emphasis by intonation or body language, repetition, requests for clarification and is much less information dense than written text is (though obviously there are exceptions).

The Oxford Very Short Introduction series is damn good as well.  They're like exploded encyclopedia entries written by super competent people in their field, usually around 100 - 150 pages, inexpensive, thin, fit in pockets, written for laypeople, wide variety of topics in philosophy and other fields.  Good stuff. 
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Offline akurtula

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Re: Any recommendations for a beginner?
« Reply #4 on: 06/05/11 @ 17:34 »
Thanks for your recommendation LostInAShaftOfSunli. Youtube has proven to be useful a lot before.

This reminds me: is there any blogs that I could start reading. I have a lot of RSS feeds on different subjects which are very useful for every day reading but nothing regarding Philosophy.

- thanks

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